Spanking Nicole Abour

I love Nicole Abour! She is a prime example of how we need to listen to stupid people in order to clarify our own ideas about controversial subjects. Give her about three minutes of your time, click on this link and her video will load:

Abour reminds me of what my father said to me one time (in reference once to an example of my profound stupidity on a subject): “Nobody is ever totally worthless, if nothing else, they can always serve as a bad example.”

Abour can be is such an example; her thinking process is instructive: it demands that we find a different way to respond to ineffective parenting. Nicole’s problem isn’t really with obstreperous children’s behavior, it is really with the parents of these children, but she can’t think past the noise of these children to clear her mind and think about how one might help these parents and their offspring.

Did anyone besides me catch the sound symbolism in Nicole’s last name? Abour: a bore? Okay, it’s just the literature teacher in me raising my ugly head.

Before I get too carried away with Nicole Abour and her goofiness, I would like to tell a few of my own spanking stories.

One day, I had done something especially egregious to draw the ire of my mother. She had to resort to threatening me because she had run out of authority to discipline me. I must have been about five. She couldn’t spank me, so she did the next best thing, she pretended to call my father at work and tell him what a bad boy I had been and how I needed a spanking when he got home from work. She, of course, knew better than to bother my father at work, so she held down the kitchen phone receiver (old school phone) while she dialed the number. She proceeded to relate, as I listened from the living room, the laundry list of sins I had committed that day, leaving the worst for last. I was paralyzed with fear that my dad would come home and beat me. He had never done more than speak a few cross words to me, so my fear was totally ungrounded as fear always is. When she hung up, she said flatly, “When your father gets home, he is going to deal with you. He told me to tell you that.”

The day went on. Mother forgot about me, but I didn’t forget about my impending doom.

Upon arriving home after work, my father, totally ignorant of my manifold sins, bounded up the driveway, both arms wide open to greet me in a bear hug. I, remembering my mother’s phone call, had been worried, non-stop, for hours before my father’s arrival.

I was watering the front yard trees with a powerful stream of water. I flashed on my father’s open arms threatening to tackle me to the ground and spank my butt until it fell off. I defended myself with the only tool I had at hand: the water hose! I hosed that man up and down, down and up, and then hosed him straight into his shocked face with that water hose gushing forth it’s cold stream of water from a four foot distance.

Something in his face changed. I did not read it as anger: it was clearly chagrin at having been greeted so rudely and having his brand new, three piece, grey flannel suit completely soaked. Too bad there wasn’t an audience to witness this scene.

It was flight or fight time. I flew. Father became enraged. I got about twenty feet of a head start. I was no slouch at running! My father sprang into a sprint and was closing rapidly from the first bound. Off we jetted, three hundred feet south on Poplar Street to the corner of Twenty-First Street. I instinctively rounded left up the Twenty-First Street hill and thereby saved myself a guaranteed public spanking. As we ran up the hill, I maintained speed; my dad’s speed flagged. (He was about fifty-four and retribution running was not his forte.) I circled the block, hung out with some neighbors, and then bowed to the inevitable. I  returned home.

Dad was nowhere in sight. Mother was upstairs crying (a very rare event.) Unbeknown to me, my dad had returned home. Angry words were exchanged. To my mom’s credit, she must have come clean about the misunderstanding she had authored. He changed clothes and was walking the neighborhood looking for me. His objective was to forgive me, have a good laugh, and recover the rest of the evening: he had come home early from work to take us all to dinner. We didn’t laugh at me hosing him down.

Later, he didn’t even remember it.

Story two. I knew (and loved) a friend of my parents, Bill Hileman. He was a big man, a strong man, and a pleasant man to be around. He always welcomed me into a conversation when he was at my parent’s home. When I was a freshman in junior high, Bill Hileman was my ninth-grade physical education teacher and I was thrilled to be in his class. The greatest difficulty I had at the beginning of the year was to remember to call him Mr. Hileman instead of Bill. I settled on the jock approach: I called him coach.

One day, I was exercising my office of “Stud Ninth Grader” in the showers at the end of class. Little seventh graders were scurrying around in the showers trying to get showered and trying to not be late getting dressed and getting to their next class. My self-appointed job was to hurry them along by snapping my rolled-up towel at their naked little fannies (we were all naked). I had learned how to do this office from the ninth graders when I was in seventh and eighth grade.

The floor drain had been deliberately plugged and I was surprised by the sloshing through the water of an adult and then the feel of a powerful, huge hand on my shoulder. Coach Hileman barked, “Step into my office, Parsons.”

His office was the health room where ninth-graders changed. The rowdy gym students fell silent as Coach Hileman followed me into the room and closed the door.

I of course, thought the situation was hilarious. Nobody else was that deluded.

Coach Hileman positioned me at the front of the class and said, “Assume the position,” flatly. I grabbed my ankles. My little privates dangled between my legs.

Coach Hileman and the other coaches had a running joke going for years. They always asked the preparatory question: “Do you want a love tap, or the regular?” Nobody, but nobody ever asked for the latter. I said, “Oh hell Bill, give me the regular!”

Such audacity was rewarded with an arc of the paddle that swung so precipitously  the sound barrier was dented, if not broken. The water droplets, formally on my bare butt, rematerialized themselves as tears and shot out of my eyes. I saw the light. Literally. Excruciating pain flashed bright orange and yellow in my brain. I stood. I took one step. I passed out in front of thirty slack-jawed classmates. When I came to, seconds later, after I landed in a heap on the cold linoleum, I saw Coach Hileman’s face in my face, worried. He said, “Do you want me to tell your dad, or do you want to?” I said, “I’ll take care of it, sir.”

I don’t remember speaking to Bill Hileman ever again. my feeling were hurt, irrevocably. I did not refuse to speak to him out of anger; I wasn’t particularly angry. I would have easily forgiven him. After all, I was the one at fault.  I just never went out of my way to talk to him again. Neither did my family. That spanking damaged everyone. All were punished.

Story three. When I was about seven, I still played with Lincoln Logs. I didn’t always use them to build cool cabins and bridges, and whatever kids build with Lincoln Logs. I did build all of those things, but my first love was designing weapons with the green roof slats combined with the small log pieces.

One day, I was in my bedroom, pilot-testing a new slate/fulcrum/projectile combination. I launched the log-projectile at NASA launch velocity across the room, through the bedroom door, in a perfect trajectory into my father’s temple. I’m not sure how much it hurt, but it did draw blood near his eye.

He entered the room and I knew immediately not to blame the dog for this one. He picked up a green Lincoln Log roof slat and brandished it like a paddle (in retrospect, it was almost a laughable paddle). I reached down and picked up a slat, and for safety’s sake, picked up another in order to have one in each hand. I was ready to fight to the death like they do on television.

My dad offered up the old saw that is often spoken before a parent whales on his child, “This is going to hurt me more than it is going to hurt you.”

My response drove straight to his heart and his mind at the same time, “Why do we want to hurt each other, anyway?”

He stopped, pondered that question for ten seconds, and then put down the slat and left my room. I didn’t win the day, we both did. He never threatened me again. Ever. And Lord knows, I gave him lots of reasons over the next ten years to punish me. He found a undressed girl one afternoon under my bed when she sneezed because of the dust bunnies she was keeping company with, but that’s another story for another blog.

When I first stated teaching, my principal at the time was four square opposed to spanking and all corporal punishment. I challenged him on the subject, being firmly rooted in the pro-spanking camp. He responded very authoritatively. His position was formed as an educator. He said that when we spank children, we teacher them a dangerous and dysfunctional lesson: we teach them “I can hit you because I am bigger than you.”  He continued that corporal punishment seems effective in the moment because it is. But all behavior is built on an inexorable timeline. Eventually, that child will become an adult and use that same behavior on a child.  Additionally, there is the problem of where you begin on the timeline to spank children. Is one too young, is two about right? Months?  Do we spank babies? Why not? They annoy us when they cry, don’t they? On the other end of the timeline when do we stop spanking to change behavior? Ten? Twelve? Eighteen? Do we stop when they are too damned big and might hit us back, or challenge our authority to spank them? Do we resume spanking when our spouse won’t respond any other way?

There is a great (if not painful to read) scene in Diana Gabaldon’s book Outlander when Jamie spanks Claire for running away and endangering the entire clan. This is no love tap spanking: he completely blisters her ass with a leather belt. An interesting side observation is that Jamie is whipped numerous times in the novel and it never changes his behavior. Claire has to bring him to his senses with reason.

And in this age of gender equality, do we spank girls until they are ten? Twelve? College? When they become our spouses?

I wonder if Abour ever thought about spanking in the concrete. Would she have herself spanked at fourteen? In college?  As a spouse? Would she spank her child with a horse whip as Mary Karr’s grandmother would have had Mary and her sister spanked by Mary’s mother in her memoir, The Liar’s Club?

I knew the Marquis de Sade when he was a young whipper snapper. I think even he would agree that spanking children is going too far and he was a man of extreme behavior. He would have us wait, Nicole, until children are adults.

Parents still believe that spanking is an effective technique to stop misbehavior because it is…in the short term. Parents reason that the threat of spanking is an effective tool to discipline children because spanking worked so well to stop their obstreperous behavior in the past. Parents mistakingly reason that spanking changes children’s behavior permanently and shapes them to become responsible, well-behaved adults.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

No responsible, thoughtful, well-informed, mother, or father, spanks his or her child in the twenty-first century. Society, as a whole, does not support, or condone spanking.  Spanking a child is not a question of being politically correct, or not politically correct. Spanking is not the answer that most of us have accepted to the question: “What is an effective way to discipline my child without damaging his soul? Or her soul?”

No school boards in the United States support the spanking of children in the schoolhouse. There may still be some schools that allow for the possibility of spanking disruptive children; almost none use that allowance in fear of severe censure from parents and the community at large.

Geoffrey Canada, of the Harlem School Project, trains the parents of his future students of the HSP not to yell, threaten, or spank their children in a well-meaning attempt to discipline them; he provides them with effective parenting techniques when he schools the parents in his “Baby College.”

I started teaching in the Fall of 1975. Several years before I started teaching, a junior high principal and a coach took a particularly obnoxious eighth-grade boy across the street from the school to “straighten him our.” They straightened him out all right: They broke his arm. They broke his jaw. Something else got straightened out: the entire school district. The only question settled after this child was “straightened out” was the size of the check the district wrote to the parents. Okay, so he was fourteen. Did that make him an adult? Did the adults in this incident act as adults?

Such as it was, Bill Mitchell, the new superintendent of the school district started the 1974 school year by issuing the following edict: “No staff member will ever touch a student in any manner except to restrain the student for safety. “Unstated was the understanding that if a staff member did touch a student in any other way than for their safety, the staff member would be dismissed from the district.”

After watching Nicole Abour spout her ridiculous diatribe, I just want to smack her. Just kidding. Writing this blog is probably more fulfilling  in the long term. After all, what Nicole Abour really wants is an audience: she just wants to rant and gain followers.

This brings up my question of the day: When are we going to get past this stinkn’ thinkn’? It’s time to call bullshit on people like Abour. I have done it. Many times. I have called bullshit on teaching colleagues who advocated a return to corporal punishment. I have argued with students who were operating under the misconceptions of Nicole Abour! She is a prime example of how we need to listen to stupid people in order to clarify our own ideas about controversial subjects.

Let me go on the record one last time: All parents who spank their children are ignorant. Spanking children to discipline them is a parenting strategy than needs to be buried once and for all.

Spanking is punishment.Discipline is not punishment.  Therefore, spanking is not discipline.

Just a minor thought bubble for those who don’t know that discipleship (discipline) is all about getting someone to follow you because they want to follow you and not because they can make you follow them. Think Christ. Did he use the rod on his disciples to get them to follow him?

My final thought on spanking is a more proactive approach to obstreperous children. My students always enjoyed watching this video, you will too:



6 thoughts on “Spanking Nicole Abour

  1. Jessica S.

    Definitely a good read! Entertaining and enlightening 🙂 One thing I have always disliked about spanking (as well as all of the points you mentioned) is that I feel some people are more predisposed to do so in bouts of anger (or other strong emotions like fear) and in those cases it is way too easy for them to cause serious physical harm, especially depending on the childs age and the parent’s (or person giving the punishment) strength. I don’t think anyone thinks clearly under such strong emotions and as you said, reason goes a lot further in disciplining, and more importantly teaching, children.


  2. I can remember when my son was 7 or 8… He used to have these uncontrolable screaming fits when he got worked up and upset. One rough day, he had been screaming and carrying on for about 5 minutes. He got up and started screaming in my face, and I slapped him, hard. He stopped screaming immediately, but got a strange look on his face and started crying. I spent age 4 to age 11 living with an abusive stepfather, and the look on Stephen’s face instantly brought me back to my situation as a kid. I was devastated. All those years I had promised myself to never treat another person the way I was being treated, and yet here I was. I promised Stephen then and there that I would never, NEVER, do that again, and explained what happened to me when I was a kid. I’ve not laid a finger on my children before or since that day, and Stephen has never had a screaming fit again. I think that it wasn’t the slap that stopped his behavior, but the conversation we had that helped him realise just how much his behavior was hurting others. It was the words that helped, not the punishment. Physical abuse does not solve anything, ever.

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  3. Kamen L

    Oh my gosh, this post made me laugh really hard. I agree that spanking is a form of punishment rather than discipline- well said. I love reading all of these little stories about your past. Nicole actually got much of her “fame” from being in an abusive relationship with a youtuber. It’s a pretty interesting story, and kind of shows how some people never change. Great work Parsons!


    1. Barbara

      I too enjoyed a great laugh reading about Little Parsons and the hose! Fantastic! I was spanked as a child but don’t have any horror stories. Perhaps it’s because it was done extremely rarely, only when I was quite young (no older than 6 by my estimate), and the spankings themselves were not brutal by any standard. I’d actually call them symbolic spankings.

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  4. Maxine Franklin

    Alaska Natives did not traditionally hit or spank their kids; and mine never treated me unkindly. Somehow I grew up to be an OK adult without ever having been punished by them. When I was around 4 years old, my mother got sick & had to be in the hospital for 6 weeks or so. My dad had to work, and there was no one to take care of my two brothers and myself. So we lived in a children’s home for that time. During our incarceration there, I was blamed untruthfully on an accident where an iron got pulled off the ironing board, and fell on the toddler of the home’s owners. I had to stand for an hour facing the wall with my nose on a small circle the wife had drawn on the wall until the dad got home from his work. He took me into the nice parlor, made me pull down my pants and bend over the leather hassock. He took off his belt and brought it down on my bottom with all his force several times. I was humiliated to my core, and shocked that this was happening to me. Of course I screamed in pain. When my parents came to visit a few days later – my mom wasn’t yet quite well, but she could make a visit – I told them what had happened. They were horrified, and pulled my brothers & me out of that home immediately. Even though she was still pretty weak, my mom wouldn’t let us stay in that awful place even one more day. When I see parents spanking their children, and the children cry piteously, it breaks my heart. I can imagine the humiliation the children are feeling, and the potentially dangerous consequences to their poor psyches if that is the norm in their lives. And to societies made up of damaged people, the norm is often a pathological tolerance for violence toward helpless children and animals.


    1. Thank you, Maxine for your contribution to this debate. I am very saddened to hear that you were subject to this level of violence. I have no idea how to get parents to protect their children from violence. My wife and I were lucky to never have to leave our daughter alone as she grew up. Good parenting means making sacrifices for your children; most parents have know idea what they are signing up for when the have children. All children, all people, need to be treated with respect and dignity for their being.


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